Way back in 2018, I got an email from Phil Burgess at the IT Career Energizer Podcast inviting me to come be on his show. I’d only just started my role at AWS and wasn’t sure whether I was allowed to do such things, and frankly I was busy just trying to keep my head above water. So I regretfully declined, but I kept Phil’s email in my inbox, promising I’d get in touch again when the time was right. Two years later, stuck at home during Covid isolation, I reached out to Phil and he graciously extended the invitation again. We recorded this past June, and the episode just went live this week! I hope you enjoy it.